Infact our roads MUST become safer places or more people will die on them . Who is allowing some of these this extremely tight and very high risk compromises for road users to remain on our roads ? Ted Baillueu and Peter Ryan haven't done anything to show their understanding that both the Shire and DSE officers are the problem ; soundly argued clearing along roads would take away half the officers workload and make them work, and think as well. A pile of red tape rules makes it easy for these officers to not make decisions;- just leave the general impression that its " wrong "' to touch anything on roadsides (As it happens ,it isn't always illegal , but DSE are not leading here in saying so!!!!!) The local officers have it easy because of all the rules pushed on them over the years by DSE heirachies. Noone in power is allowed to suggest those in power are paranoid about what they don't know . Duckshoving real practical decisions to a rules book to be read down the line by the bookreaders group is complete madness but its been the modus operandi for decades. Question : what do these growing emergency management agencies
do when there is no emergency ? Write rule books?
Risk avoidance therapy by governments remains an easy way to stop being reasonable and scientific about these complex combinations of diversity and ecosystems. Wood on the ground that could house an animal is often not allowed to be moved so , whether its a rabbit hollow ( most likely) or a native animal , it becomes the sacred unknown life . Landholders are allowed up to 3 metres clearance - why don't the Shires show they have the same power to clear and protect ? While the unknown subject remains sacred and the trumpet call is unclear , people will die .
Respecting nature doesn't mean never touching it, as some unthinking single focused people think. Only ever seeing 2 uses on a roadsides ( them and us ) is blinkered and single focused . Lots of things use te space and there rights need to be balanced . Roadsides often need things they no longer get because people have got preciuos about presummed rights of the native vegetation and the animals we house there . This road in the picture divides on a steep ridge and 2 cars can't pass between the two old trees - a seriuos accident waiting to happen.
Retained forest and fallen timber and bark near roads is, in Victoria,at this moment , hundreds of accidents waiting to happen . The form of these old fire remnant forests will not last anyway,so the musuem view of their protection is shortsighted; As is so much of the frightened techno politically correct religious speak from Head office and their lawyer driven "no real advice here " crew .Must we must pay more for better advice ?
The commissioner at the time of Marysville was clearly afraid to use the word " evacuate "and many yes men in the system still are . Why oh why ABC investigators is that ? I wonder how many people died just becuase it wasn't assummed by many that it could be expected to happen .It was, at it always was , "your idea that kills you" -" its nothing to do with what I , the commissioner , the ABC do " . "Your plan" talk remains the garbage garbelled newspeak even today . Where was Bailleu's enquiry into the whitewash of Marysville and that very word "evacuate " ?Victotian governement don't want to offend anyone ----even if it means more deaths ??
Roads also need drainage and cars need places to pass . These spaces are often NOT now allocated when they should be because of a compromise in favor of nature worship.Trees and habitat are more important . The greeneries allow cars ( because they have to ) but the safer places implied by car use - they don't quite undertsand is part of the eco deal - dumb, pathetic and shallow loopy
We were driving through Lara yesterday
( grassland ecosystem extending from Geelong to Melbourne) when 17 people lost their lives several decades ago 1969 . Interestingly on the topic of eco specific advice ( see bleow) they probably would have lived if they had not left their cars ( normal thing to do if the fire is parked on a road near ( but not neccesarily in ) grassland. How would that happen and would it happen today ? It would be madness to say that the Lara native timber in that area was a forest ( then or now as its sparse and low and grassland mainly ) But there were enough trees in one spot to create the same old timber dry hardwood frame disaster that we bushies knew is plan dangerous anytime .The road was one of the first to have freeway width and yet people were killed on it in 1969 . Do our road users know any better today when to stay indoors and where is safe and what to keep in the car
The whole truth is not told ,,,so the advice is suspect and dangerous.
Unlike the 60's, though, instead of avoiding parking near the standing tinderbox we live in them .Noone is dared to tell the truth - so innocent people die because the truth is not told
.Worse people pretend that any old advice apart from the harsh truth will save them . God help the compliant when the right trial is held charging the right people . Meanwhile the danger is not avoided for some . A sort of strange perveted right of entitlement is given to trees and animals over humans. We die when they mustn't. Strange twisted and confusing moralities are all around us .
The creation of extra lanes on the Geelong Melbourne Road in recent times makes any loss of life on that long road through western plains grassland less and less likely but ----with our national broadcaster and many others still claiming in their ignornace and arrogance to to give advice on risk in every space is wrong . Basic education and exposure , not nanny led powerbrokers and genarilized advice is still sorely needed .Rebellion is thankfully breaking out amongst the commercials " use all sources " they said a few days ago.
Some reasons to be more reasonable about the monocultural fire related forests that often occupy our roadsides
1. Protection from incineration It’s extremely dangerous to be near OUR native forests on hot days when the wind is blowing .
Because of the namby pambying and silence , those who pretend that living in the bush is safe keep doing it and somehow pretend that the road out through it will be safe . Neither are true and the danger is ever present to all of who use roads near bush .
2. Biodiversity enhancement
Its clear that despite all the talk on the media most city people have no idea of the reality that road formations and clearing can and do create lots of
biodiversity . The forest produced by fire is relatively uniform so that the light access and water concentration produced by our roads adds to the diversity of habitats near them.
Roads produce runoff for grass production in dry summers and light access for animals seeking some grasland diet species. The need for clearing is nowhere more evident than at Zumsteins in the Grampians where no kangaroos now congregate ( growing wattle s at the moment) . Tourists will however find them feeding on the private pastures provided by landowners nearby.
3.Long term ecosytem protection
Looking after the forest is not leaving it to rot and fall over ( The only habitat in old trees is dry space - there is therfore little habitat in rotting wet centres of the old trees in the picture. Its leaving to burn or burning it early ( the needed favor option )that makes sense naturally .
.Controlled burning may not be the best compromise
The idea that you can burn these areas every year is wrong ( controlled burning preoccupation of the current government). The flora will change , more weeds will come and the natural sequence of at least 10 years between fires is broken .Realistically, a lower native form also often suits the new landscape (say where clearing has occurred on both sides) .The leaves of many monocultural fire related forest do not like the wind exposure of being on the edge of such road side remnants ;groups too which have no need to no longer grow tall to compete for light but which can be expected to change character on the edge and in substoreys because of light entry changes.( in the longer term)
5 Confusion over the great divergence of risk between grassland and forest
One very serious reason the public are not aware of the danger is that major controversies have plagued the fire agencies for years –One power group CFA favours staying while another favors going and evacuation . The dummies in charge seem to fear that having two actions would threaten the advice and authority of government . Sensible thoughtful people know the confusion is imaginary and not real . One applies to grassland with occasional trees .The other applies to native forests and plantations of such trees .Diversity is a no brainer unless you are a myopic singlebagger ( as many are in leadership culture these days ) Instead of taking responsibility for good advice, the governemnet listen to lawyers who advise irresponsibility by governments."If you die mate it will be because of a decision you made" - "listen to YOUR plan" . "we don't really have a plan" ) The environment and the dead people take second place to big agencies and weak governments who allow pride in their own areas of expertise to stand in the road of reason in relation to real environmental reality .( This is the myth that need s busting , the worship of nature “ : You can stay near grass fires (CFA reasoning ) but you mustn't try to stay IF you are living close to the Australian Bush . Vic government are so weak they allow this internal confusion of policy direction to continue . You read it first on blogger from a highly effective risk planner of 3decades experience bloke who was sacked because he told the truth.
Will the government care for you in your hour of need ?
Useful risk management advice comes from sifting the relevant from the trash ; being tough and making tough choices when it matters - not handing out suck eggs advice
; Ditching talk and noise of the obvious from the particular, the direct from the drivel , searching beyond the good for the best and most direct . It’s a bit like the job of sifting what your parents say to find the bits that are infact correct ( and disaster avoiding) not " crap to be spread in a predictable dumb shit handling exercise - “a war against everything" It’s not about information but the right information
---about the relevant forces operating in our space and time – about the incredible diversity and freedom we live in - our legacy of freedom and freedom within limits.There is real freedom !
If you don't yet believe me think, the specific sites
and how the dummies in charge , instead of respecting the need for site specific judgement ( apart from " your own plan " which is Ok to a point ) try to force us to learn together in one place and time ( "hang into the news" while you burn to death? ) ;
--The specifics of why cypresses did in fact protect homes and people in Western District fires ,
-- why non bark and ember producing NON NATIVE ( shock horror) trees should be planted MORE ( they are doing it Canberra where the hard lesson was put upon them )
--why some roads are still on this very day HUGE danger traps because noone is allowed to clear them of risk factors ( by Shire planners and DSE)
-- why is the compromise of control burning accepted ( required once a year if you create a strong undergrowth( normal) Its often much more destructive of ecosystems than the natural fire pattern which patch burns every 10 years plus or so on average . (http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/fire-and-other-emergencies/major-bushfires-in-victoria)
Get as much advice as you can - wherever you can
. Don't be like children, and follow like sheep
or the dishonest children in charge
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